Showing posts with label Kidder. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Kidder. Show all posts
Tuesday, January 13, 2015
Tombstone Tuesday: Great-Great-Great Grandparents #2
Tuesday, May 20, 2014
Tombstone Tuesday: Great-Great-Grandparents #1
Clark and Jennie Green are buried in the Maple Lawn Cemetery in Boyne City Michigan. Clark V. Green was born March 19, 1859 in Kalamo Township, Michigan and died June 8, 1930 in Marquette, Michigan. Jennie Kidder was born December 10, 1859 in Irondale, Missouri and died January 12, 1934 in Boyne City, Michigan. They were married July 3 or 4 in 1886 and had three sons together. Clark was well known in the lumber industry as a young man but died in prison. Jennie was a gifted midwife in the Boyne City area.
Monday, June 25, 2012
Mrs. Roxanna Kidder; 1895
Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Mayflower Connection
Edward Doty was one of two indentured servants obligated to Stephen Hopkins and as such accompanied Hopkins and his family aboard the Mayflower. While the Mayflower was anchored off Cape Cod, forty-one of the adult males, including the servants, signed the Mayflower Compact on November 11, 1620.
1) Edward Doty (abt 1598-1655) plus Faith Clarke (?-?)
2) Joseph Doty (1651-abt 1733) plus Deborah Hatch (1662-1711)
3) Ellis Doty (1681-?) plus Ellinor (?-?)
4) Edward Doty (1705-?) plus Mary Andrews (1703-?)
5) Theodorus Doty (1737-abt 1783) plus Jane Densmore (?-?)
6) Prince Doty (abt 1766-?) plus Almira Beach (?-apt 1806)
7) Weaver Green (1793-1870) plus Jane Doty (1793-1871)
8) Ira Green (1823-1872) plus Phebe Flint (1829-1972)
9) Clark Green (1859-1930) plus Elizabeth Kidder (1859-1934)
10) Philmore Green (1893-1959) plus Edith Nelson (1891-1958)
11) Raymond Green (1919-1971) plus Margaret Livingston (1922-1985)
12) Nelson Green & Leah Vorce
13) Eric
Constance was the second daughter of Stephen Hopkins, by his first wife, Mary. Constance, at the age of fourteen, along with her father and his second wife Elizabeth (Fisher), accompanied by brother Giles, half-sister Damaris as well as two servants by the name of Edward Doty and Edward Lester were passengers on the Mayflower in 1620.
1) Nicholas Snow (?-?) plus Constance Hopkins (1606-??)
2) Thomas Paine (?-1706) plus Mary Snow (abt 1630-1704)
3) Joseph Paine (1667-1712) plus Patience Sparrow (abt 1675-1745)
4) Jonathan Paine (1710-1762) plus Marcy Doane (abt 1715-?)
5) Thomas Paine (1756-1847) plus Anna Haskell (1760-1854)
6) Thomas Paine (1792-1838) plus Anna Marston (1794-1870)
7) Jospeh Stinchfield (1822-1849) plus Sarah Paine (1820-1889)
8) Frank Stinchfield (abt 1847-1933) plus Abbie Nuite (1850-1899)
9) Edwin Vorce (1867-1934) plus Susie Tillotson (1878-1945)
10) Harold Vorce (1903-1994) plus Grace Tillotson (1901-1976)
11) Nelson Green & Leah Vorce
12) Eric
Yep that is correct my husband's ancestor through his fathers line was the indentured servant of the ancestor through his mothers line!
Sunday, October 16, 2011
Jennie Kidder Green
Obituary from Jan 12, 1934
Former Resident of Stanton Succumbs
Mrs. Jennie Green, 75, Buried Sunday at Boyne City After Long Ailment
Mrs. Jennie Green, former well known resident of Stanton, died at her home at Boyne City January 12, aged 75. She was the sister-in-law of Mr. and Mrs. A.T. Green.
Mrs. Green had been ailing for two years, but had been bedfast only a short time. She was born in Irondale, Mo., and moved in childhood to Stanton. In. 1886 she was married to Clark V. Green who passed away four years ago.
A kindly lady, she was known to young and old as Grandma Green, and had assisted at the time of the birth of many of those who loved her.
She is survived by three sons, Claude, who made his home with her, Emmett and Philmore, both of Boyne City; and eight grandchildren.
Funeral services were held from the Methodist church of Boyne City Sunday afternoon with Rev. W. A. Eley officiating, assisted by Rev. Guy E. Smock. Interment in Maple Lawn cemetery.
Mrs. Green was the daughter of Daniel Kidder, pioneer lumberman of Montcalm county, and her mother was the first person to be buried in Forest Hill cemetery.
Former Resident of Stanton Succumbs
Mrs. Jennie Green, 75, Buried Sunday at Boyne City After Long Ailment
Mrs. Jennie Green, former well known resident of Stanton, died at her home at Boyne City January 12, aged 75. She was the sister-in-law of Mr. and Mrs. A.T. Green.
Mrs. Green had been ailing for two years, but had been bedfast only a short time. She was born in Irondale, Mo., and moved in childhood to Stanton. In. 1886 she was married to Clark V. Green who passed away four years ago.
A kindly lady, she was known to young and old as Grandma Green, and had assisted at the time of the birth of many of those who loved her.
She is survived by three sons, Claude, who made his home with her, Emmett and Philmore, both of Boyne City; and eight grandchildren.
Funeral services were held from the Methodist church of Boyne City Sunday afternoon with Rev. W. A. Eley officiating, assisted by Rev. Guy E. Smock. Interment in Maple Lawn cemetery.
Mrs. Green was the daughter of Daniel Kidder, pioneer lumberman of Montcalm county, and her mother was the first person to be buried in Forest Hill cemetery.
Sunday, October 2, 2011
The Kidder Newsletter, part 3
The Family Tie, April 1967, Vol. 3, No. 4
"Helen Kidder, daughter and first child of Benjamin & Kathryn Kidder was born April 22, 1909 in Nehalem, Ore. a small lumber town near Astoria, Ore. Just three weeks prior to her birth her parents left Chicago by train to join Frank Whitaker, uncle to Benjamin Kidder and a brother-in-law of Daniel Dwight Kidder, Ben's father. Frank Whitaker was a lumber cruiser and owner of some valuable timber land.
A son, Arthur B. Kidder was born Oct. 20, 1910 but he survived only six weeks. Another son, Warren C. Kidder was born Jan. 5. 1913. Four years later Ben Kidder died of pneumonia. Helen was only eight years of age and Warren only four years old when their young widowed mother had to go to work to support the family. Finances were limited but the family never went hungry. Most people in the neighborhood could afford little more than the necessities of life and the Kidder family ate and dressed as well as most and better than some. The Kidders were happy and contented even thought they didn't have modern plumbing for a number of years and couldn't afford a telephone or an auto.
Helen was always quite serious minded and a good student. She graduated from grade school in 1923, and Lewis & Clark High School in 1927. She attended business college after which she did office work until her marriage to Walter Grosch on July 14, 1929.
Helen's first child, Richard, was born Nov. 7, 1931 and her daughter, Doris, was born Aug. 30, 1933. Helen's interest have centered mainly on her family and her church. She is a very good cook. She cans vegetables and fruits in the summer and puts up all kinds of jams & jellies. At Christmas time she bakes all sorts of Christmas cookies & candies. She also enjoys sewing. When Doris was a little girl Helen sewed many doll dresses for her dolls. Her family spends the summer weekends at different lakes in the area on picnics. The winter months find the family ice skating together.
Helen & her husband, Walter, built their lake cabin at Priest Lake, Idaho starting in 1950. They worked side by side on this project until it was completed. Electricity was not available at the time of building and every board was sawed by hand.
Helen's two children are both married. She has four grandchildren of whom she is very proud. Richard & his wife, Shirley are parents of Sharon, Richard Jr. and Susie. Doris and her husband, Bill Palmer are parents of a daughter, Janet.
Helen is The Family Tie reporter for the Kidder Clan in Spokane. She does an excellent job of reporting and the editor and Staff are very appreciative of her news which arrives promptly on the 25th day of each month."
"Helen Kidder, daughter and first child of Benjamin & Kathryn Kidder was born April 22, 1909 in Nehalem, Ore. a small lumber town near Astoria, Ore. Just three weeks prior to her birth her parents left Chicago by train to join Frank Whitaker, uncle to Benjamin Kidder and a brother-in-law of Daniel Dwight Kidder, Ben's father. Frank Whitaker was a lumber cruiser and owner of some valuable timber land.
A son, Arthur B. Kidder was born Oct. 20, 1910 but he survived only six weeks. Another son, Warren C. Kidder was born Jan. 5. 1913. Four years later Ben Kidder died of pneumonia. Helen was only eight years of age and Warren only four years old when their young widowed mother had to go to work to support the family. Finances were limited but the family never went hungry. Most people in the neighborhood could afford little more than the necessities of life and the Kidder family ate and dressed as well as most and better than some. The Kidders were happy and contented even thought they didn't have modern plumbing for a number of years and couldn't afford a telephone or an auto.
Helen was always quite serious minded and a good student. She graduated from grade school in 1923, and Lewis & Clark High School in 1927. She attended business college after which she did office work until her marriage to Walter Grosch on July 14, 1929.
Helen's first child, Richard, was born Nov. 7, 1931 and her daughter, Doris, was born Aug. 30, 1933. Helen's interest have centered mainly on her family and her church. She is a very good cook. She cans vegetables and fruits in the summer and puts up all kinds of jams & jellies. At Christmas time she bakes all sorts of Christmas cookies & candies. She also enjoys sewing. When Doris was a little girl Helen sewed many doll dresses for her dolls. Her family spends the summer weekends at different lakes in the area on picnics. The winter months find the family ice skating together.
Helen & her husband, Walter, built their lake cabin at Priest Lake, Idaho starting in 1950. They worked side by side on this project until it was completed. Electricity was not available at the time of building and every board was sawed by hand.
Helen's two children are both married. She has four grandchildren of whom she is very proud. Richard & his wife, Shirley are parents of Sharon, Richard Jr. and Susie. Doris and her husband, Bill Palmer are parents of a daughter, Janet.
Helen is The Family Tie reporter for the Kidder Clan in Spokane. She does an excellent job of reporting and the editor and Staff are very appreciative of her news which arrives promptly on the 25th day of each month."
Thursday, September 22, 2011
The Kidder Newsletter, part 2
Another profile as printed in the December 1965 Vol. 1, No. 3 issue of the Family Tie. (This is also the very first issue I have.)
"Clarance M. Kidder was born June the twenty-fifth, eighteen hundred seventy-five, Town of Day, Mt. Calm County. This record from the family Bible.
When Clarence was eight years old his father moved the family to the Dakota Territory. These were exciting days and Dakota Prairies presented many problems not experience in the pine woods of Michigan.
The alkali water was not fit for man or beast. It was necessary to haul drinking water by wagon for a distance of twenty miles. When tornadoes were sighted the family sough refuge in a storm cellar. This was homesteading land which had never been plowed or sown with crops. The Dakota Territory was frontier country with no conveniences except those provided by the homesteaders.
Intermingled with the hard work of cultivating new ground was the excitement of hunting game on the open prairie. Bill Long, the hired hand, would hitch up a buckboard, grab a couple of muzzle loaders and with Clarence on the seat beside him go hunting for prairie chickens. Driving the horses into a flock of prairie chickens and shooting from the buckboard put meat on the table in time for supper.
When Clarence was eleven years old his mother died from prairie fever. The family moved back to Michigan where his father could get help to raise the children.
Clarence attended school and after school worked in the mill packing shingles. His half-brother, Will Kidder taught him to box and he became very adept with his hands. On Saturday night the young men from nearby towns came to Stanton to box the local talent. Clarence frequently was on the card and usually won his match.
In spring of 1900 Clarence boarded a train to seek his fortune in Chicago. He worked for two years on "The Line" where horses were sold at auction in the Drexel Park Pavillion, Union Stock Yards. He was the barn boss for Eli Pfaelzer Meat Packers for two years. After three more years working for horse drawn liveries Clarence decided there was a future in automobiles.
In 1907 he married Emma Kallberg. There were five children born of this marriage. Stanley, Mildred, Lillian and Dorothy were born in Chicago and Ruth was born in Whitehall, Michigan.
Clarence learned quickly about automobiles. He drove for the Emery Motor Livery in the Hyde Park District. he was a yellow cab driver for several years. He was a night foreman for Keeley's garage. While working for the Yellow Cab Company he was also a private chauffeur for Mr. Van Winkle who lived at 44th and Forestville Avenue. Clarence moved his family into Mr. Van Winkle's tenant house. He was able to raise a few chickens which Emma had bought as a Easter gift for the children in 1916. Two of the chickens, Dick and Biddy, became members of the family. Dick would perch on Clarence's shoulder and carry on a conversation. Biddy on one occasion was brought into the house and promptly laid an egg on the scarf covering the piano.
Clarence longed for a place in the country where he could raise a garden and some chickens. In 1917 he moved the family to Whitehall, Mich. Emma who was born in Sweden found several Swedish women who were friendly and liked to drink coffee and talk. In the summer the children picked berries on shares. If they picked three crates of strawberries they received one for their labor. It was always great fun getting ready for winter. Clarence would buy 10 to 12 bushels of potatoes, several bags of flour, a 200 lb. sack of navy beans which were stored in the cellar along with 300 or more jars of home canned fruit and vegetables. With the shed full of cord wood Clarence woudl say "Let it snow, they can't freeze us out now."
In the evenings after supper the family would father around the hot blast stove. Mildred, his oldest daughter, would play the organ and the family would sing hymns and folk songs. Occasionally Clarence would play a violin accompaniment.
Five acres of ground in the Fruitvale area was purchased as the future site of a chicken farm before he moved from Chicago to Whitehall. The weekend trips to Fruitvale to improve the five acres were also occasions for hunting and fishing excursions. The small game, rabbits, partridge and squirrels were plentiful in the area. Lake Michigan, inland lakes and five trout streams known throughout Michigan provided excellent fishing. Clarence and his son, Stanley, enjoyed the outdoors hunting and fishing together.
Clarence worked in the local garage as a mechanic. He had several books on auto repair and was a good mechanic. The local mechanics were able to repair the Model "T" Fords but were a bit lost on the other models. When a Chandler sheared off an idling shaft in the transmission on the sandy road to Fruitvale local mechanics were unable to help. With no parts available Clarence fashioned a shaft from a piece of hard wood and drove the car into town.
Clarence joined the Odd Fellows Lodge and was active in community affairs. He rented a building and opened a garage and auto repair shop. Business was real good in the summer months. In the winter the deep snow and cold weather stopped most auto traffic. During the first World War he operated a gear machine in the Continental Motor Works in Muskegon, Michigan.
On August 30, 1923 members of the Kidder family who were living in Michigan, came to Whitehall for a family reunion. Twenty-six members including the families of Clarence, Dan, Fred and Grace Shea spent two happy days together in the beautiful wooded area around White Lake.
In 1925 he moved the family back to Chicago. He rented a large two story building with an English Basement. After some remodeling the upstairs rooms were rented as light housekeeping rooms. He was employed by Armour & Co. as a pipefitter. The children finished school and were married.
Clarence was gainfully employed all of his life. In his later years he worked as an overseer for a wealthy property owner on the West side of Chicago. Mr. Knox, the property owner, was in his eighties and unable to look after his property. Mr. Know had implicit faith in Clarence's judgement and integrity. In addition to being employer and employee they were very good friends.
His family hold cherished memories of him as one who brought encouragement in the time of trouble, help in the time of need and a loyalty to family and friends that was at times fierce in its dedication. He believed that people and animals had to be loved as well as doctored to restore their mental and physical health.
Clarence M. Kidder died on June 2, 1951 from injuries received in an automobile accident near Madison, Wis."
"Clarance M. Kidder was born June the twenty-fifth, eighteen hundred seventy-five, Town of Day, Mt. Calm County. This record from the family Bible.
When Clarence was eight years old his father moved the family to the Dakota Territory. These were exciting days and Dakota Prairies presented many problems not experience in the pine woods of Michigan.
The alkali water was not fit for man or beast. It was necessary to haul drinking water by wagon for a distance of twenty miles. When tornadoes were sighted the family sough refuge in a storm cellar. This was homesteading land which had never been plowed or sown with crops. The Dakota Territory was frontier country with no conveniences except those provided by the homesteaders.
Intermingled with the hard work of cultivating new ground was the excitement of hunting game on the open prairie. Bill Long, the hired hand, would hitch up a buckboard, grab a couple of muzzle loaders and with Clarence on the seat beside him go hunting for prairie chickens. Driving the horses into a flock of prairie chickens and shooting from the buckboard put meat on the table in time for supper.
When Clarence was eleven years old his mother died from prairie fever. The family moved back to Michigan where his father could get help to raise the children.
Clarence attended school and after school worked in the mill packing shingles. His half-brother, Will Kidder taught him to box and he became very adept with his hands. On Saturday night the young men from nearby towns came to Stanton to box the local talent. Clarence frequently was on the card and usually won his match.
In spring of 1900 Clarence boarded a train to seek his fortune in Chicago. He worked for two years on "The Line" where horses were sold at auction in the Drexel Park Pavillion, Union Stock Yards. He was the barn boss for Eli Pfaelzer Meat Packers for two years. After three more years working for horse drawn liveries Clarence decided there was a future in automobiles.
In 1907 he married Emma Kallberg. There were five children born of this marriage. Stanley, Mildred, Lillian and Dorothy were born in Chicago and Ruth was born in Whitehall, Michigan.
Clarence learned quickly about automobiles. He drove for the Emery Motor Livery in the Hyde Park District. he was a yellow cab driver for several years. He was a night foreman for Keeley's garage. While working for the Yellow Cab Company he was also a private chauffeur for Mr. Van Winkle who lived at 44th and Forestville Avenue. Clarence moved his family into Mr. Van Winkle's tenant house. He was able to raise a few chickens which Emma had bought as a Easter gift for the children in 1916. Two of the chickens, Dick and Biddy, became members of the family. Dick would perch on Clarence's shoulder and carry on a conversation. Biddy on one occasion was brought into the house and promptly laid an egg on the scarf covering the piano.
Clarence longed for a place in the country where he could raise a garden and some chickens. In 1917 he moved the family to Whitehall, Mich. Emma who was born in Sweden found several Swedish women who were friendly and liked to drink coffee and talk. In the summer the children picked berries on shares. If they picked three crates of strawberries they received one for their labor. It was always great fun getting ready for winter. Clarence would buy 10 to 12 bushels of potatoes, several bags of flour, a 200 lb. sack of navy beans which were stored in the cellar along with 300 or more jars of home canned fruit and vegetables. With the shed full of cord wood Clarence woudl say "Let it snow, they can't freeze us out now."
In the evenings after supper the family would father around the hot blast stove. Mildred, his oldest daughter, would play the organ and the family would sing hymns and folk songs. Occasionally Clarence would play a violin accompaniment.
Five acres of ground in the Fruitvale area was purchased as the future site of a chicken farm before he moved from Chicago to Whitehall. The weekend trips to Fruitvale to improve the five acres were also occasions for hunting and fishing excursions. The small game, rabbits, partridge and squirrels were plentiful in the area. Lake Michigan, inland lakes and five trout streams known throughout Michigan provided excellent fishing. Clarence and his son, Stanley, enjoyed the outdoors hunting and fishing together.
Clarence worked in the local garage as a mechanic. He had several books on auto repair and was a good mechanic. The local mechanics were able to repair the Model "T" Fords but were a bit lost on the other models. When a Chandler sheared off an idling shaft in the transmission on the sandy road to Fruitvale local mechanics were unable to help. With no parts available Clarence fashioned a shaft from a piece of hard wood and drove the car into town.
Clarence joined the Odd Fellows Lodge and was active in community affairs. He rented a building and opened a garage and auto repair shop. Business was real good in the summer months. In the winter the deep snow and cold weather stopped most auto traffic. During the first World War he operated a gear machine in the Continental Motor Works in Muskegon, Michigan.
On August 30, 1923 members of the Kidder family who were living in Michigan, came to Whitehall for a family reunion. Twenty-six members including the families of Clarence, Dan, Fred and Grace Shea spent two happy days together in the beautiful wooded area around White Lake.
In 1925 he moved the family back to Chicago. He rented a large two story building with an English Basement. After some remodeling the upstairs rooms were rented as light housekeeping rooms. He was employed by Armour & Co. as a pipefitter. The children finished school and were married.
Clarence was gainfully employed all of his life. In his later years he worked as an overseer for a wealthy property owner on the West side of Chicago. Mr. Knox, the property owner, was in his eighties and unable to look after his property. Mr. Know had implicit faith in Clarence's judgement and integrity. In addition to being employer and employee they were very good friends.
His family hold cherished memories of him as one who brought encouragement in the time of trouble, help in the time of need and a loyalty to family and friends that was at times fierce in its dedication. He believed that people and animals had to be loved as well as doctored to restore their mental and physical health.
Clarence M. Kidder died on June 2, 1951 from injuries received in an automobile accident near Madison, Wis."
Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Kidder Confusion
So the whole Jennie Kidder situation just got worse. I'll have to start over and look at everything very carefully!
Since Clark & Jennie supposedly got married in 1887 when they were 26, and I cannot located that record on FamilySearch, I thought maybe Jennie had been married before. So I looked around and found a marriage to Thadeus Doud in 1878.
The age of Jennie is correct as well as the area where she was living but I don't know what M.D. means for place born. So this is good! I have another name to use for the 1887 marriage. But nope, I didn't find what I expected. I found a Jennie Doud getting married on July 4, 1887 (the exact date expected) but to the wrong guy & the wrong place! (I looked in the 1880 census and found Thaddeus with his wife Jane...plus their 6 month old child.)
And I still cannot find any marriage for Clark V. Green.
Saturday, September 17, 2011
The Kidder Newsletter, part 1
So my in-laws had some copies of this Kidder Newsletter that was mailed out in the mid-60's. The copies I have don't have a family tree listing so I don't know how most of the people mentioned are related. But one great thing is they have these profiles. And one of the profiles is for Clark V. Green. So here is the profile as printed in the August 1966 Vol. 2, No. 8 issue of the Family Tie.
"Clark V. Green was born in Kalamo Township, Eaton County on March 19, 1859. The place of his birth is just a few miles east of Lansing, Michigan.
He is one of the in-laws. He married Elizabeth "Jennie" Kidder, daughter of Daniel and Rosa Kidder. He was a brother-in-law to Clarence, Dan, Ben, Frank, Fred and Grace.
Clark came from a long line of pioneers and defenders of the country. His great-grandfather, Joseph Green, fought in the Revolutionary War under General Starke, this from records in the War Department, in Washington, D.C. His grandfather, Weaver Green, fought in the War of 1812 under General Alexander Macomb at Platsburg, N.Y. for the duration of the war. His father, Ira Green, enlisted in the Union Army in 1861 and served for the duration of the Civil War. Members of the Green family have served in every major war fought in the United States.
In 1866 Clark's parents, Ira and Phebe Green, moved to Sheridan, Michigan the land of virgin pine and shingle mills.
Six years later was a time of great sorrow for Clark Green. His parents became ill with the fever. His mother died on April 27, 1872. His father died one week later on May 4, 1872.
Clark's two brothers had married and were living in Kalamo so he was all alone now to make his own way at the tender age of thirteen.
Clark knew a mill-owner, Mr. Stone, who had employed his father. He walked out to the mill and asked for a job. Mr. Stone, feeling sorry for the orphan boy gave him a job.
Clark learned to saw shingles, file saws and do mill-wright work. At 18 years of age he was the best shingle sawyer in the area. He was also an expert saw-filer and mill-wright. The head sawyer was the pace-setter for the entire mill. Clark held two records for a Perkins hand machine. He averaged 50,000 shingles per day for 20 straight days of 10 hours and 87,000 shingles for one 12 hour day from picked timber.
There was a lot of competition between the shingle mills. The mill that sawed the most shingles for the week nailed a new broom, handle down, to the top-most peak on the roof of the mill.
A mill-owner was known not by name as much as by the toughness of the crew who worked for him. Some mill-owners hired men not so much for work but rather because they were hard fighters. On weekends it was the custom to go to some camp and take on the best man just to see who was top dog.
Clark was not a big man he only weighed 165 pounds. He was very quick and light on his feet. Sawing shingles 10 hours a day produced arm and shoulder muscles that rippled under the skin like huge ropes. He took pride in being the best sawyer and top dog of the mill country. He often said, "If I hit a man and he don't fall I am going to run around him and see what is holding him up."
Clark followed his trade in Montcalm count, Michigan and went to work for one of the pioneer lumberman, Daniel D. Kidder, at his mill and four miles east of Stanton. There he became acquainted with his wife to be, Jennie Kidder.
The mill burned and Dan Kidder moved his family to Dakota Territory except Jennie, who remained in Stanton. Clark and Jennie were married on July 4, 1887 and moved three miles west of Stanton to B.Z. Knopp's mill where their first son, Claude, was born on January 29, 1889. The Knopp mill also burned and the family lost everything but the clothes on their backs. During their stay at the mill another son was born, Emmett A., named after both of his uncles.
Clark moved his family back to Stanton where he continued to work in the mills. Here a third son, Fillmore, was born on February 28, 1893.
In the summer of 1896 the family went to Crystal lake for a week where Clark's brother-in-law, Clarence Kidder, was managing some resort property. During the stay Fillmore who was 3 years old was sent to buy some bananas from a stand. He returned with a sack of rotting bananas not knowing the difference.
Clark took the boy and the bananas back. The owner of the stand said, "You hayseeds come to town spend your money and then want it back again, well here is one time you don't get it." With this Clark reached across the counter, jerked the owner forward and hit him. The stand was just a small shed covered with limbs that folded up and collapsed.
The owner of the concession sent to Carson City for a tough character to give Clark a beating. The tough, six feet and over 200 pounds was pointed out to Clark. Clark, with four silver dollars clenched in his right fist walked up to him and said, "I am Clark Green," and let him have it on the jaw. This blow, although it did not end the fight broke the character's jaw and the end was never in doubt. Asked if he wanted to prefer charges he said, "When a banty rooster whips a game cock should he cry about it."
The family lived in Stanton until October 31, 1900 when they moved to Boyne City, Michigan a thriving lumber and industrial town.
Jennie Green was a good nurse and mid-wife and very much in demand.
The family continued to live in Boyne City. When more money was needed, Claude, now in 10th grade quit school and went to work in the mils. Emmett & Fillmore soon followed Claude to work in the mills.
Clark cut off three fingers and a thumb from his left hand. This ended his career as a sawyer. He became a mill-wright and maintenance man in the mill.
His iron will carried him on saying nothing about his health although it was apparent he was ailing.
On June 8, 1930 while watching a card game he collapsed and died with a heart attack. His final resting place along-side his wife, Jennie is a cemetery in Boyne City, Michigan."
It doesn't say who put this profile together. It could have been his son Claude.
"Clark V. Green was born in Kalamo Township, Eaton County on March 19, 1859. The place of his birth is just a few miles east of Lansing, Michigan.
He is one of the in-laws. He married Elizabeth "Jennie" Kidder, daughter of Daniel and Rosa Kidder. He was a brother-in-law to Clarence, Dan, Ben, Frank, Fred and Grace.
Clark came from a long line of pioneers and defenders of the country. His great-grandfather, Joseph Green, fought in the Revolutionary War under General Starke, this from records in the War Department, in Washington, D.C. His grandfather, Weaver Green, fought in the War of 1812 under General Alexander Macomb at Platsburg, N.Y. for the duration of the war. His father, Ira Green, enlisted in the Union Army in 1861 and served for the duration of the Civil War. Members of the Green family have served in every major war fought in the United States.
In 1866 Clark's parents, Ira and Phebe Green, moved to Sheridan, Michigan the land of virgin pine and shingle mills.
Six years later was a time of great sorrow for Clark Green. His parents became ill with the fever. His mother died on April 27, 1872. His father died one week later on May 4, 1872.
Clark's two brothers had married and were living in Kalamo so he was all alone now to make his own way at the tender age of thirteen.
Clark knew a mill-owner, Mr. Stone, who had employed his father. He walked out to the mill and asked for a job. Mr. Stone, feeling sorry for the orphan boy gave him a job.
Clark learned to saw shingles, file saws and do mill-wright work. At 18 years of age he was the best shingle sawyer in the area. He was also an expert saw-filer and mill-wright. The head sawyer was the pace-setter for the entire mill. Clark held two records for a Perkins hand machine. He averaged 50,000 shingles per day for 20 straight days of 10 hours and 87,000 shingles for one 12 hour day from picked timber.
There was a lot of competition between the shingle mills. The mill that sawed the most shingles for the week nailed a new broom, handle down, to the top-most peak on the roof of the mill.
A mill-owner was known not by name as much as by the toughness of the crew who worked for him. Some mill-owners hired men not so much for work but rather because they were hard fighters. On weekends it was the custom to go to some camp and take on the best man just to see who was top dog.
Clark was not a big man he only weighed 165 pounds. He was very quick and light on his feet. Sawing shingles 10 hours a day produced arm and shoulder muscles that rippled under the skin like huge ropes. He took pride in being the best sawyer and top dog of the mill country. He often said, "If I hit a man and he don't fall I am going to run around him and see what is holding him up."
Clark followed his trade in Montcalm count, Michigan and went to work for one of the pioneer lumberman, Daniel D. Kidder, at his mill and four miles east of Stanton. There he became acquainted with his wife to be, Jennie Kidder.
The mill burned and Dan Kidder moved his family to Dakota Territory except Jennie, who remained in Stanton. Clark and Jennie were married on July 4, 1887 and moved three miles west of Stanton to B.Z. Knopp's mill where their first son, Claude, was born on January 29, 1889. The Knopp mill also burned and the family lost everything but the clothes on their backs. During their stay at the mill another son was born, Emmett A., named after both of his uncles.
Clark moved his family back to Stanton where he continued to work in the mills. Here a third son, Fillmore, was born on February 28, 1893.
In the summer of 1896 the family went to Crystal lake for a week where Clark's brother-in-law, Clarence Kidder, was managing some resort property. During the stay Fillmore who was 3 years old was sent to buy some bananas from a stand. He returned with a sack of rotting bananas not knowing the difference.
Clark took the boy and the bananas back. The owner of the stand said, "You hayseeds come to town spend your money and then want it back again, well here is one time you don't get it." With this Clark reached across the counter, jerked the owner forward and hit him. The stand was just a small shed covered with limbs that folded up and collapsed.
The owner of the concession sent to Carson City for a tough character to give Clark a beating. The tough, six feet and over 200 pounds was pointed out to Clark. Clark, with four silver dollars clenched in his right fist walked up to him and said, "I am Clark Green," and let him have it on the jaw. This blow, although it did not end the fight broke the character's jaw and the end was never in doubt. Asked if he wanted to prefer charges he said, "When a banty rooster whips a game cock should he cry about it."
The family lived in Stanton until October 31, 1900 when they moved to Boyne City, Michigan a thriving lumber and industrial town.
Jennie Green was a good nurse and mid-wife and very much in demand.
The family continued to live in Boyne City. When more money was needed, Claude, now in 10th grade quit school and went to work in the mils. Emmett & Fillmore soon followed Claude to work in the mills.
Clark cut off three fingers and a thumb from his left hand. This ended his career as a sawyer. He became a mill-wright and maintenance man in the mill.
His iron will carried him on saying nothing about his health although it was apparent he was ailing.
On June 8, 1930 while watching a card game he collapsed and died with a heart attack. His final resting place along-side his wife, Jennie is a cemetery in Boyne City, Michigan."
It doesn't say who put this profile together. It could have been his son Claude.
Friday, September 16, 2011
Death Record, Rose Kidder
This might be the death record for my husband's ancestor, Rosa (Gainer) Kidder. (There is some confusion with this line which I need to research.) This record shows Rose Kidder dying at age 34 in child birth. I think the other part says Premature Confinement. So the baby came early. I don't have a record of a child born this year so I am pretty sure the child didn't survive IF this is the right person for the line I am researching.
Tuesday, August 25, 2009
16 Great-Great-Great Grandparents (in-law edition)
It didn't seem right to post my own 16 GGG Grandparents and then not include a post for my husband's side of the family. I will admit right now that I don't have as much information for this group. I actually cannot even establish nationality for all of them. But I will add what I have and see what happens!
1) Clark V. GREEN - b: 19 Mar 1859 in Kalamo Township, Eaton, MI; m: 03 Jul 1886; d: 08 Jun 1930 in Marquette, MI. (might be British?)
2) Elizabeth Jennie KIDDER - b: 10 Dec 1859 in Washington, Missouri d: 12 Jan 1934 in Boyne City, Charlevoix, MI (might be British - really no idea)
3) John NELSON - b: abt 1863 in Sweden; m: 02 Mar 1888 in Traverse City, Grand Traverse, MI; d: Unknown (nationality=Swedish!)
4) Bertha ANDERSON - b: abt 1864 in Norway; d: before 1900 (nationality=Norwegian)
5) Hugh LIVINGSTON - b: Unknown in Scotland; m: 14 Dec 1855 in Blythswood, Glasglow, Scotland; d: Unknown (nationality=Scottish)
6) Margaret CAMERON - b: Unknown in Scotland; d: Unknown (nationality=Scottish)
7) William COOK - b: Unknown; m: Unknown; d: Unknown (nationality=unknown)
8) Jane HELBERT - b: Unknown; d: Unknown (nationality=unknown)
9) Elisha Alden VORCE - 14 Nov 1832 in New York; m: 09 Jun 1857; d: Oct 1913 (nationality=British)
10) Jemima HOWELL - 02 Jun 1839 in Pennsylvania; d: 27 May 1889 (nationality=unknown)
11) Frank Henry STINCHFIELD - b: abt 1847 in Dover, Piscataquis, Maine; m: Sep 1869; d: 28 Jul 1933 in Burton Township, Genesee, MI (nationality=unknown)
12) Abbie Augusta NUITE - b: 25 Aug 1850 in Sangerville, Piscatquis, Maine; d: 15 Apr 1899 in Benton Township, MI (nationality=unknown)
13) Oscar TILLOTSON - b: 07 Jun 1844 in Prairieville, Barry, MI; m: 10 Feb 1869; d: 02 Sep 1933 in Hayes Township, Charlevoix, MI (nationality=British)
14) Ardennes GEER - b: 22 Jul 1849 in Granby, Shefford Vale, Quebec, Canada; d: 17 Dec 1921 in Hayes Township, Charlevoix, MI (nationality=Canadian)
15) Charles Frank BURNETT - b: 1837 in Canada; m: 05 Sep 1860; d: 01 May 1876 in Victor, Ontario, New York (nationality=Canadian)
16) Sarah Jane CASE - b: 28 Apr 1840 in Ontario, New York; d: 08 Jun 1915 in Bay Shore, Charlevoix, MI (nationality=unknown)
So my kids are 1/2 Dutch, 2/16 Canadian, 2/16 British, 2/16 Scottish, 1/16 Norwegian, 1/16 Swedish & 1/4 Unknown. I guess I know where some work is needed!
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